Bullet 12:24 Sun Feb 25
Next seasons ambition from the 2bobs
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I can only think of three players that we have that would get into a top six side. Can see the 2bobs rubbing their hands when the big bids come in?
Aunautovic (huge unit will attract massive offers). We need to hold onto him more than any other but like Payet player power will mean they do as they want.
Lanzini (blows hot and cold, has he signed a new contract yet? Best friends with Lamela)
Antonio (body language looks like he thinks he should be playing at a bigger club. Said you can't blame Coutinho wanting to go if Barca wanted him. Noble said he disrespected the team being late. Apologised privately to Moyes. Never heard him apologise publicly to the team).
Rice looks promising, still learning his trade.
Jao Mario (jury still out looks lightweight, maybe 10-15m not 40m so unlikely to happen)
Having seen enough of the rest to make a judgement most for a number of years I have come to the conclusion that they including the keepers can all go are no where good enough technically bad passing ability positional sense unable to keep possession or defend and ageing quickly.
In summary we need a complete new defensive midfield and defence, 6 new players minimum but with the Fonte money the 2bobs have averaged net spend of £20m per year over the last 4 years. Can't see this summer being much different so that will get 2 players in those positions max. Result another relegation scrap next year.
*Disclaimer above not applicable if relegated*
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On The Ball
12:29 Sun Feb 25
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You're an absolutely incredible body language expert.
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Gavros
12:53 Sun Feb 25
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big things needed this summer. personally I'd like to see notes stay on and have a veto to dictate transfer policy rather than see the ridiculous situation we've had with loans and shit continue. this could be key to either placating the fans or really launching the RWHFAG onto another level. we shall see.
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Mad Dog
12:54 Sun Feb 25
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Sullivan "let's see if we can get away with that 'we tried our best line again" Gold "sweet that means we can buy more yachts for ourselves. If they dont like it, you remind then that we alnoat wrnt bust and ill trot out the i lived down the road thing" Sullivan "yeah fuck em, they'll buy season tickets anyway"
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Gavros
12:58 Sun Feb 25
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I reckon this summer is when the wheels fall off the bus of the project if they fail to invest significantly. they've got away with it so far with goodwill. there will be shit loads of people not renewing and their fabled list will be shown up to be a load of old shit as per. they two Bob it again....and they're fucked.
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Takashi Miike
1:09 Sun Feb 25
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any idea when the renewal letters are sent out?
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Westham67
1:11 Sun Feb 25
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Those 3 players will be playing for a top six side next season just not us
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bertie
1:33 Sun Feb 25
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They should definitely be aiming for first time promotion.
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Private Dancer
5:00 Sun Feb 25
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I really don't think we would sell all 3 of those players. If we did there would be absolute anarchy over there. Not even our lapdog support would accept that.
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Sydney_Iron
5:19 Sun Feb 25
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Arnie, looks our best player this season after a shaky start, he was Stokes best player last season, did that get the interest of any "Big clubs" though?????
Lanzini, as you say he blows hot and cold, he may get some interest if he can blow more hot...........
Antonio, see Lanzini comments as Antonio is in the same boat IMO
Lets be frank our best players would be squad players at a bigger club.
There has always been a bit of a gulf between the top 5 or 6 and the rest of the PL, lets face it we are nowhere near joining that elite, or of attracting the kind of player to take us there, well not under the current ownership and management, we are a mid table side at best.
Next season will be no different.
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Private Dancer
5:24 Sun Feb 25
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Sydney - Yep, spot on. I don't think any of them are good enough for a top 6 side. Arnie - possibly at a real push. Lanzini - Simply no. Antonio - Hahahahaha. The fella is barely a footballer, albeit he can be effective on his day.
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Stubbo
6:06 Sun Feb 25
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Paraphrasing latest from IronMike:
Moyes only identified 6 players of the current first XI he is bothered about keeping.
Has been usng "Mr R" an experienced former player and manager (Redknapp) to assess things pre and post game.
Has said no room for sentimentality and we have some players as fit as they can be and with the heart and attitiude but not the legs for it.
Summer could be interesting.
My guess on the 6:
Adrian, Ogbonna, Masuaku, Lanzini, Arnie, Antonio.
Rice and Fernandes I'm guessing not in the 6 as "young players".
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After8
7:33 Sun Feb 25
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They'll lie through their teeth. They'll leak to exwhuemployee and co that they'll super ambitious and they mean it this time.
And then they'll flog Arnie and Lanzini and blame agents and player power.
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riosleftsock
8:14 Sun Feb 25
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If we can get 15m for Mario it would be superb.
Especially as he is only on loan from Inter.
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Stubbo
8:26 Sun Feb 25
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Apparently "Mr R" isn't Redknapp. Wonder who it could be.
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Coffee
8:38 Sun Feb 25
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Stubbo 6:06 Sun Feb 25
Assessing what pre-game?
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Sven Roeder
9:03 Sun Feb 25
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Some teams actually look at the opposition and come up with a strategy to beat them. This isn’t always obvious watching West Ham Utd
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eusebiovic
9:53 Sun Feb 25
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As I mentioned on another thread...due to Sullivan and his false economy he wasted £20M in fees and wages on Fibre and Snodgrass not to mention Hart and Zabaleta when that could of paid for Harry Maguire and Nathan Ake - and both were realistic signings..
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eusebiovic
9:54 Sun Feb 25
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Fibre? - Fonte
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Spandex Sidney
9:57 Sun Feb 25
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Stubbo 6:06 Sun Feb 25
This is interesting. Moyes got rid of some of the older players early on at Everton so he's done that before and after Slaven 'I'm your mate' Bilic it's good to see there is no room for sentimentality. I think Moyes is staying, whatever happens to us and he's planning accordingly.
The Mr R thing is interesting, but only because it's mysterious! I don't think we are gonna guess that one but I'm pleased to see Moyes feels that he needs some help with that. We know what happens when a manager doesn't listen to anyone except his yes men.
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10:29 Sun Feb 25
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It is pretty obvious we are going need new keeper next season. I'd go for Sam Johnstone from Villa. ManU was pulling his loan and selling him West Brom for 4m in January. That must be close to Harts loan fee good young back up Keeper that will push Adrian and within our price bracket. However watch us go out and get Huddlesfields Back Up keeper as he will be on a FREE but HAS Premier League/International Experience.
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